In this recording at the launch of the book Clear Red Water: Welsh devolution and socialist politics the authors, Darren Williams and Nick Davies, outline some of the issues laid out in the book: the distance between the policies carried out by Welsh Labour in coalition with Plaid Cymru in the Welsh Assembly and those favoured by New Labour in Westminster, the need for greater devolutionary powers and call for socialists in Wales to work together rather than indulge in sterile tribalism. 

The recording was made by Adrian Leibowitz at Housmans bookshop, Kings Cross, on 17 June 2009.

Darren Williams talking about the background to Welsh devolution and Welsh Labour policies

Nick Davies talking about party democracy. allies and adversaries

The questions:

1. To what extent do the history, traditions and politics of the Scottish National Party and PLaid Cymru affect the politics within Scotland and Wales?

2. How realistic is it to build a bridgehead between Labour and Plaid at a grassroots level?

3. I don't see that there will necessarily be a 'progressive agenda' in Wales. It is part of the world economy and affected by the vagaries of it. The only answer as I see it is the resurgence of workers' movement. Which I regret to say doesn't look very likely at the moment. Could you comment on this?

4. Much has been said of a radical Scotland and Wales. I don't see this reflected within the Scots and Welsh MPs. Is this the effect of the media not reporting accurately, or are they simply all Blairites?

5. Would you consider that the Labour Party has come to the end of its historical purpose? Is the Labout 'tribe' facing extinction?

6. Is there a pattern of the Welsh electorate distinguishing between how they vote in a British election and one for the Welsh Assembly?